Discussion:
[cc-devel] Status of the official CC Wordpress plugin
Tarmo Toikkanen
2013-07-05 19:49:57 UTC
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Hi all,

I'm new to the list, but did check the archives back at least 2 years and did not see any mention of this. So here goes:

There's a Wordpress plugin that is listed in the CC wiki: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense
However, WpLicense hasn't been updated since 2007. It's well done, since it still works. However, it is very limited in its behavior. Does anyone know if there's already people looking at resuming development of that plugin?

What I've needed is a plugin that works for a multi-author blog, where each author may have a separate license in use, and where certainly the attribution generated in the CC license should reflect each post's real author.

The best plugin I've found is License, which also is outdated and a bit buggy: http://wordpress.org/plugins/license/

I've updated it myself to work better in non-US contexts and fixing bugs. It allows for a default CC license for the blog, a default license for each author, and post-specific licenses that override those defaults. The widgets and short codes display correct post-specific author names in the RDF and HTML.

I'm planning on publishing my fixed version of "License" to the Wordpress codex. But I'm wondering what the best approach would be in terms of WpLicense and what others are planning or wanting to do.
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http://tarmo.fi

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BjornW
2013-07-05 19:59:03 UTC
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Hi Tarmo,

I'm a WordPress plugin developer myself and I'm willing to help out. For
instance with testing. Do you have your code somewhere online, like
Github or some other place where we can check it out and perhaps send
patches / pull requests?

grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi all,
I'm new to the list, but did check the archives back at least 2 years
There's a Wordpress plugin that is listed in the CC
wiki: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense
However, WpLicense hasn't been updated since 2007. It's well done,
since it still works. However, it is very limited in its
behavior. Does anyone know if there's already people looking at
resuming development of that plugin?
What I've needed is a plugin that works for a multi-author blog, where
each author may have a separate license in use, and where certainly
the attribution generated in the CC license should reflect each post's
real author.
The best plugin I've found is License, which also is outdated and a
bit buggy: http://wordpress.org/plugins/license/
I've updated it myself to work better in non-US contexts and fixing
bugs. It allows for a default CC license for the blog, a default
license for each author, and post-specific licenses that override
those defaults. The widgets and short codes display correct
post-specific author names in the RDF and HTML.
I'm planning on publishing my fixed version of "License" to the
Wordpress codex. But I'm wondering what the best approach would be in
terms of WpLicense and what others are planning or wanting to do.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
Creative Commons Finland
tarmo at iki.fi
http://tarmo.fi
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Tarmo Toikkanen
2013-07-06 03:29:49 UTC
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Hi! Nothing publicly available just now. I've basically made a quick hack of License to see if I could make it work for my needs. I did.

I can push the stuff to github soonish, after I clean up a few things in the code.

More generally, I'd be interested in knowing if we (whatever that means) should revive the WpLicense plugin, or should I just publish my plugin independently.

Related to this, there's the CC Affiliate Grant program (deadline for applications in 2 days): http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Affiliate_Project_Grants

Would there be interest in forming a small dev team to pull this through, and even get some monetary compensation for it? If so, add your info to this public Google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XKybAnymhsW2DaMMEpZXMPxIAIkAUJBvj1SjOolmWJE/edit?usp=sharing
You don't need to be a member of an Affiliate team, as long as some team(s) are in charge of the project.
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http://tarmo.fi
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
I'm a WordPress plugin developer myself and I'm willing to help out. For
instance with testing. Do you have your code somewhere online, like
Github or some other place where we can check it out and perhaps send
patches / pull requests?
grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi all,
I'm new to the list, but did check the archives back at least 2 years
There's a Wordpress plugin that is listed in the CC
wiki: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense
However, WpLicense hasn't been updated since 2007. It's well done,
since it still works. However, it is very limited in its
behavior. Does anyone know if there's already people looking at
resuming development of that plugin?
What I've needed is a plugin that works for a multi-author blog, where
each author may have a separate license in use, and where certainly
the attribution generated in the CC license should reflect each post's
real author.
The best plugin I've found is License, which also is outdated and a
bit buggy: http://wordpress.org/plugins/license/
I've updated it myself to work better in non-US contexts and fixing
bugs. It allows for a default CC license for the blog, a default
license for each author, and post-specific licenses that override
those defaults. The widgets and short codes display correct
post-specific author names in the RDF and HTML.
I'm planning on publishing my fixed version of "License" to the
Wordpress codex. But I'm wondering what the best approach would be in
terms of WpLicense and what others are planning or wanting to do.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
Creative Commons Finland
tarmo at iki.fi (mailto:tarmo at iki.fi)
http://tarmo.fi
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Tarmo Toikkanen
2013-07-06 16:49:21 UTC
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Hi Bjorn! I pushed my edits to a github repository here: https://github.com/tarmot/wp-cc-plugin/tree/tarmo-mods
The plugin is still named according to the original License, so it will conflict with it and cannot be published on WP codex as it is. But you should be able to give it a go.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
tarmo at iki.fi
http://tarmo.fi
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
I'm a WordPress plugin developer myself and I'm willing to help out. For
instance with testing. Do you have your code somewhere online, like
Github or some other place where we can check it out and perhaps send
patches / pull requests?
grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi all,
I'm new to the list, but did check the archives back at least 2 years
There's a Wordpress plugin that is listed in the CC
wiki: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense
However, WpLicense hasn't been updated since 2007. It's well done,
since it still works. However, it is very limited in its
behavior. Does anyone know if there's already people looking at
resuming development of that plugin?
What I've needed is a plugin that works for a multi-author blog, where
each author may have a separate license in use, and where certainly
the attribution generated in the CC license should reflect each post's
real author.
The best plugin I've found is License, which also is outdated and a
bit buggy: http://wordpress.org/plugins/license/
I've updated it myself to work better in non-US contexts and fixing
bugs. It allows for a default CC license for the blog, a default
license for each author, and post-specific licenses that override
those defaults. The widgets and short codes display correct
post-specific author names in the RDF and HTML.
I'm planning on publishing my fixed version of "License" to the
Wordpress codex. But I'm wondering what the best approach would be in
terms of WpLicense and what others are planning or wanting to do.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
Creative Commons Finland
tarmo at iki.fi (mailto:tarmo at iki.fi)
http://tarmo.fi
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BjornW
2013-07-08 07:35:43 UTC
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Thanks, I've forked it to my repos & 'll have a look.

grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi Bjorn! I pushed my edits to a github repository
here: https://github.com/tarmot/wp-cc-plugin/tree/tarmo-mods
The plugin is still named according to the original License, so it
will conflict with it and cannot be published on WP codex as it is.
But you should be able to give it a go.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
tarmo at iki.fi
http://tarmo.fi
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
I'm a WordPress plugin developer myself and I'm willing to help out. For
instance with testing. Do you have your code somewhere online, like
Github or some other place where we can check it out and perhaps send
patches / pull requests?
grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi all,
I'm new to the list, but did check the archives back at least 2 years
There's a Wordpress plugin that is listed in the CC
wiki: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense
However, WpLicense hasn't been updated since 2007. It's well done,
since it still works. However, it is very limited in its
behavior. Does anyone know if there's already people looking at
resuming development of that plugin?
What I've needed is a plugin that works for a multi-author blog, where
each author may have a separate license in use, and where certainly
the attribution generated in the CC license should reflect each post's
real author.
The best plugin I've found is License, which also is outdated and a
bit buggy: http://wordpress.org/plugins/license/
I've updated it myself to work better in non-US contexts and fixing
bugs. It allows for a default CC license for the blog, a default
license for each author, and post-specific licenses that override
those defaults. The widgets and short codes display correct
post-specific author names in the RDF and HTML.
I'm planning on publishing my fixed version of "License" to the
Wordpress codex. But I'm wondering what the best approach would be in
terms of WpLicense and what others are planning or wanting to do.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
Creative Commons Finland
tarmo at iki.fi <mailto:tarmo at iki.fi>
http://tarmo.fi
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Maarten Zeinstra
2013-07-24 10:36:42 UTC
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Hi Tarmo,

How are you doing with you wp-cc-plugin? Happy to help when you have specific questions.

Cheers,

Maarten
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Post by BjornW
Thanks, I've forked it to my repos & 'll have a look.
grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi Bjorn! I pushed my edits to a github repository
here: https://github.com/tarmot/wp-cc-plugin/tree/tarmo-mods
The plugin is still named according to the original License, so it
will conflict with it and cannot be published on WP codex as it is.
But you should be able to give it a go.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
tarmo at iki.fi
http://tarmo.fi
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
I'm a WordPress plugin developer myself and I'm willing to help out. For
instance with testing. Do you have your code somewhere online, like
Github or some other place where we can check it out and perhaps send
patches / pull requests?
grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi all,
I'm new to the list, but did check the archives back at least 2 years
There's a Wordpress plugin that is listed in the CC
wiki: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense
However, WpLicense hasn't been updated since 2007. It's well done,
since it still works. However, it is very limited in its
behavior. Does anyone know if there's already people looking at
resuming development of that plugin?
What I've needed is a plugin that works for a multi-author blog, where
each author may have a separate license in use, and where certainly
the attribution generated in the CC license should reflect each post's
real author.
The best plugin I've found is License, which also is outdated and a
bit buggy: http://wordpress.org/plugins/license/
I've updated it myself to work better in non-US contexts and fixing
bugs. It allows for a default CC license for the blog, a default
license for each author, and post-specific licenses that override
those defaults. The widgets and short codes display correct
post-specific author names in the RDF and HTML.
I'm planning on publishing my fixed version of "License" to the
Wordpress codex. But I'm wondering what the best approach would be in
terms of WpLicense and what others are planning or wanting to do.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
Creative Commons Finland
tarmo at iki.fi <mailto:tarmo at iki.fi>
http://tarmo.fi
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Tarmo Toikkanen
2013-07-26 12:47:56 UTC
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What's happened so far:

Haven't heard any comments from BjornW yet. I contacted the original author, first CTO Nathan Yergler, but even he is unable to make changes to the existing plugin in Wordpress Codex, since the account is keyed to his now nonexistent @creativecommons.org mail account. And the current CTO, Nathan Kinkade, just left CC, so we're in a bit of an impasse. I sent email to Dan to see if he can help recover the email confirmation message that would allow someone to edit the plugin, but he hasn't responded - probably busy with many other things.

I'm happy doing my own thing with the plugin, but I'm still thinking it would make sense to have a concerted effort and rebuild the official plugin and to get it to be available on wordpress.com blogs. This will not happen unless the CC as an organization is behind the plugin. But I guess technical work is a bit stalled right now due personnel changes.
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Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
How are you doing with you wp-cc-plugin? Happy to help when you have specific questions.
Cheers,
Maarten
--
Post by BjornW
Thanks, I've forked it to my repos & 'll have a look.
grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi Bjorn! I pushed my edits to a github repository
here: https://github.com/tarmot/wp-cc-plugin/tree/tarmo-mods
The plugin is still named according to the original License, so it
will conflict with it and cannot be published on WP codex as it is.
But you should be able to give it a go.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
tarmo at iki.fi (mailto:tarmo at iki.fi)
http://tarmo.fi
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
I'm a WordPress plugin developer myself and I'm willing to help out. For
instance with testing. Do you have your code somewhere online, like
Github or some other place where we can check it out and perhaps send
patches / pull requests?
grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi all,
I'm new to the list, but did check the archives back at least 2 years
There's a Wordpress plugin that is listed in the CC
wiki: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense
However, WpLicense hasn't been updated since 2007. It's well done,
since it still works. However, it is very limited in its
behavior. Does anyone know if there's already people looking at
resuming development of that plugin?
What I've needed is a plugin that works for a multi-author blog, where
each author may have a separate license in use, and where certainly
the attribution generated in the CC license should reflect each post's
real author.
The best plugin I've found is License, which also is outdated and a
bit buggy: http://wordpress.org/plugins/license/
I've updated it myself to work better in non-US contexts and fixing
bugs. It allows for a default CC license for the blog, a default
license for each author, and post-specific licenses that override
those defaults. The widgets and short codes display correct
post-specific author names in the RDF and HTML.
I'm planning on publishing my fixed version of "License" to the
Wordpress codex. But I'm wondering what the best approach would be in
terms of WpLicense and what others are planning or wanting to do.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
Creative Commons Finland
tarmo at iki.fi <mailto:tarmo at iki.fi>
http://tarmo.fi
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BjornW
2013-07-26 14:08:00 UTC
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Hi Tarmo,

Ahum *shame* I totally forgot about the plugin. I'm sorry and will have
a look into it. My apologizes.

grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Haven't heard any comments from BjornW yet. I contacted the original
author, first CTO Nathan Yergler, but even he is unable to make
changes to the existing plugin in Wordpress Codex, since the account
the current CTO, Nathan Kinkade, just left CC, so we're in a bit of an
impasse. I sent email to Dan to see if he can help recover the email
confirmation message that would allow someone to edit the plugin, but
he hasn't responded - probably busy with many other things.
I'm happy doing my own thing with the plugin, but I'm still thinking
it would make sense to have a concerted effort and rebuild the
official plugin and to get it to be available on wordpress.com blogs.
This will not happen unless the CC as an organization is behind the
plugin. But I guess technical work is a bit stalled right now due
personnel changes.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
tarmo at iki.fi
http://tarmo.fi
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
How are you doing with you wp-cc-plugin? Happy to help when you have specific questions.
Cheers,
Maarten
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On Jul 8, 2013, at 9:35 , BjornW <burobjorn at gmail.com
Post by BjornW
Thanks, I've forked it to my repos & 'll have a look.
grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi Bjorn! I pushed my edits to a github repository
here: https://github.com/tarmot/wp-cc-plugin/tree/tarmo-mods
The plugin is still named according to the original License, so it
will conflict with it and cannot be published on WP codex as it is.
But you should be able to give it a go.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
tarmo at iki.fi <mailto:tarmo at iki.fi>
http://tarmo.fi
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
I'm a WordPress plugin developer myself and I'm willing to help out. For
instance with testing. Do you have your code somewhere online, like
Github or some other place where we can check it out and perhaps send
patches / pull requests?
grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi all,
I'm new to the list, but did check the archives back at least 2 years
There's a Wordpress plugin that is listed in the CC
wiki: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense
However, WpLicense hasn't been updated since 2007. It's well done,
since it still works. However, it is very limited in its
behavior. Does anyone know if there's already people looking at
resuming development of that plugin?
What I've needed is a plugin that works for a multi-author blog, where
each author may have a separate license in use, and where certainly
the attribution generated in the CC license should reflect each post's
real author.
The best plugin I've found is License, which also is outdated and a
bit buggy: http://wordpress.org/plugins/license/
I've updated it myself to work better in non-US contexts and fixing
bugs. It allows for a default CC license for the blog, a default
license for each author, and post-specific licenses that override
those defaults. The widgets and short codes display correct
post-specific author names in the RDF and HTML.
I'm planning on publishing my fixed version of "License" to the
Wordpress codex. But I'm wondering what the best approach would be in
terms of WpLicense and what others are planning or wanting to do.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
Creative Commons Finland
tarmo at iki.fi <mailto:tarmo at iki.fi>
http://tarmo.fi
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Kent Mewhort
2013-07-26 15:06:53 UTC
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Hi Everyone,

I first want to say "hi" by way of introduction, as I just joined this
list. I'm the legal lead for CC Canada (but spend most time in software
development as opposed to lawyering). I also run the licensing
information site www.clipol.org. Okay, back to the thread...

Tarmo, it looks like there's another WP Plugin called "Creative Commons
Configurator" that is more up-to-date (it has commits in 2013 at any
rate): http://wordpress.org/plugins/creative-commons-configurator-1/.
Maybe it doesn't meet your needs, but I just thought I'd mention it in
case you hadn't seen it.

Also, I implemented a CC Rails gem earlier this week (and it'll be on
Github once I get a moment to write a readme). It's a basic view helper
that allows one liners such as "license_helper(:by_sa)" or
"license_helper(:by_sa, jurisdiction: :ca, version: '3.0' ) to generate
the license notices. I mention this gem because it pulls in full I18n
internationalization support for all jurisdictions and languages
available on the License Chooser webpage. I'd be happy to port these
localizations over to the WP plugin.

Kent
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Haven't heard any comments from BjornW yet. I contacted the original
author, first CTO Nathan Yergler, but even he is unable to make
changes to the existing plugin in Wordpress Codex, since the account
the current CTO, Nathan Kinkade, just left CC, so we're in a bit of an
impasse. I sent email to Dan to see if he can help recover the email
confirmation message that would allow someone to edit the plugin, but
he hasn't responded - probably busy with many other things.
I'm happy doing my own thing with the plugin, but I'm still thinking
it would make sense to have a concerted effort and rebuild the
official plugin and to get it to be available on wordpress.com blogs.
This will not happen unless the CC as an organization is behind the
plugin. But I guess technical work is a bit stalled right now due
personnel changes.
--
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http://tarmo.fi
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
How are you doing with you wp-cc-plugin? Happy to help when you have specific questions.
Cheers,
Maarten
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On Jul 8, 2013, at 9:35 , BjornW <burobjorn at gmail.com
Post by BjornW
Thanks, I've forked it to my repos & 'll have a look.
grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi Bjorn! I pushed my edits to a github repository
here: https://github.com/tarmot/wp-cc-plugin/tree/tarmo-mods
The plugin is still named according to the original License, so it
will conflict with it and cannot be published on WP codex as it is.
But you should be able to give it a go.
--
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tarmo at iki.fi <mailto:tarmo at iki.fi>
http://tarmo.fi
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
I'm a WordPress plugin developer myself and I'm willing to help out. For
instance with testing. Do you have your code somewhere online, like
Github or some other place where we can check it out and perhaps send
patches / pull requests?
grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi all,
I'm new to the list, but did check the archives back at least 2 years
There's a Wordpress plugin that is listed in the CC
wiki: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense
However, WpLicense hasn't been updated since 2007. It's well done,
since it still works. However, it is very limited in its
behavior. Does anyone know if there's already people looking at
resuming development of that plugin?
What I've needed is a plugin that works for a multi-author blog, where
each author may have a separate license in use, and where certainly
the attribution generated in the CC license should reflect each post's
real author.
The best plugin I've found is License, which also is outdated and a
bit buggy: http://wordpress.org/plugins/license/
I've updated it myself to work better in non-US contexts and fixing
bugs. It allows for a default CC license for the blog, a default
license for each author, and post-specific licenses that override
those defaults. The widgets and short codes display correct
post-specific author names in the RDF and HTML.
I'm planning on publishing my fixed version of "License" to the
Wordpress codex. But I'm wondering what the best approach would be in
terms of WpLicense and what others are planning or wanting to do.
--
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Creative Commons Finland
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http://tarmo.fi
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Dan Mills
2013-07-26 22:16:45 UTC
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Hi all,

Tarmo, apologies I haven't done the password reset for Nathan Yergler's
wordpress.com account. I'll take a look at that today. Thanks for your
effort in nursing the plugin back to health!

Kent,

Welcome!

Dan
Post by Kent Mewhort
Hi Everyone,
I first want to say "hi" by way of introduction, as I just joined this
list. I'm the legal lead for CC Canada (but spend most time in software
development as opposed to lawyering). I also run the licensing information
site www.clipol.org. Okay, back to the thread...
Tarmo, it looks like there's another WP Plugin called "Creative Commons
Configurator" that is more up-to-date (it has commits in 2013 at any
rate): http://wordpress.org/plugins/creative-commons-configurator-1/.
Maybe it doesn't meet your needs, but I just thought I'd mention it in case
you hadn't seen it.
Also, I implemented a CC Rails gem earlier this week (and it'll be on
Github once I get a moment to write a readme). It's a basic view helper
that allows one liners such as "license_helper(:by_sa)" or
"license_helper(:by_sa, jurisdiction: :ca, version: '3.0' ) to generate the
license notices. I mention this gem because it pulls in full I18n
internationalization support for all jurisdictions and languages available
on the License Chooser webpage. I'd be happy to port these localizations
over to the WP plugin.
Kent
Haven't heard any comments from BjornW yet. I contacted the original
author, first CTO Nathan Yergler, but even he is unable to make changes to
the existing plugin in Wordpress Codex, since the account is keyed to his
Nathan Kinkade, just left CC, so we're in a bit of an impasse. I sent email
to Dan to see if he can help recover the email confirmation message that
would allow someone to edit the plugin, but he hasn't responded - probably
busy with many other things.
I'm happy doing my own thing with the plugin, but I'm still thinking it
would make sense to have a concerted effort and rebuild the official plugin
and to get it to be available on wordpress.com blogs. This will not
happen unless the CC as an organization is behind the plugin. But I guess
technical work is a bit stalled right now due personnel changes.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
tarmo at iki.fi
http://tarmo.fi
Hi Tarmo,
How are you doing with you wp-cc-plugin? Happy to help when you have specific questions.
Cheers,
Maarten
--
Thanks, I've forked it to my repos & 'll have a look.
grtz
BjornW
Hi Bjorn! I pushed my edits to a github repository
here: https://github.com/tarmot/wp-cc-plugin/tree/tarmo-mods
The plugin is still named according to the original License, so it
will conflict with it and cannot be published on WP codex as it is.
But you should be able to give it a go.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
tarmo at iki.fi
http://tarmo.fi
Hi Tarmo,
I'm a WordPress plugin developer myself and I'm willing to help out. For
instance with testing. Do you have your code somewhere online, like
Github or some other place where we can check it out and perhaps send
patches / pull requests?
grtz
BjornW
Hi all,
I'm new to the list, but did check the archives back at least 2 years
There's a Wordpress plugin that is listed in the CC
wiki: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense
However, WpLicense hasn't been updated since 2007. It's well done,
since it still works. However, it is very limited in its
behavior. Does anyone know if there's already people looking at
resuming development of that plugin?
What I've needed is a plugin that works for a multi-author blog, where
each author may have a separate license in use, and where certainly
the attribution generated in the CC license should reflect each post's
real author.
The best plugin I've found is License, which also is outdated and a
bit buggy: http://wordpress.org/plugins/license/
I've updated it myself to work better in non-US contexts and fixing
bugs. It allows for a default CC license for the blog, a default
license for each author, and post-specific licenses that override
those defaults. The widgets and short codes display correct
post-specific author names in the RDF and HTML.
I'm planning on publishing my fixed version of "License" to the
Wordpress codex. But I'm wondering what the best approach would be in
terms of WpLicense and what others are planning or wanting to do.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
Creative Commons Finland
tarmo at iki.fi <mailto:tarmo at iki.fi <tarmo at iki.fi>>
http://tarmo.fi
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Tarmo Toikkanen
2013-07-31 20:43:27 UTC
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Two updates:

1. Apparently the WpLicense plugin needs to be considered abandonware, as no-one seems to be able to find admin credentials for it. So we'll need to create a new "official CC WP plugin". Name suggestions that don't clash with existing ones in the WP Codex are welcome.

2. I have a positive response from the Affiliate Project Grants, meaning I will have some money to use on this. So serious help (development, testing, support, l10n) from others on this list can be compensated. Not much money, mind you, but something, at least. More details here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XKybAnymhsW2DaMMEpZXMPxIAIkAUJBvj1SjOolmWJE/edit

After figuring out a good name (and probably coordinating with Dan), I'll set up a github repo and start ramping up this project later in August.
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Post by Kent Mewhort
Hi Everyone,
I first want to say "hi" by way of introduction, as I just joined this list. I'm the legal lead for CC Canada (but spend most time in software development as opposed to lawyering). I also run the licensing information site www.clipol.org (http://www.clipol.org). Okay, back to the thread...
Tarmo, it looks like there's another WP Plugin called "Creative Commons Configurator" that is more up-to-date (it has commits in 2013 at any rate): http://wordpress.org/plugins/creative-commons-configurator-1/. Maybe it doesn't meet your needs, but I just thought I'd mention it in case you hadn't seen it.
Also, I implemented a CC Rails gem earlier this week (and it'll be on Github once I get a moment to write a readme). It's a basic view helper that allows one liners such as "license_helper(:by_sa)" or "license_helper(:by_sa, jurisdiction: :ca, version: '3.0' ) to generate the license notices. I mention this gem because it pulls in full I18n internationalization support for all jurisdictions and languages available on the License Chooser webpage. I'd be happy to port these localizations over to the WP plugin.
Kent
I'm happy doing my own thing with the plugin, but I'm still thinking it would make sense to have a concerted effort and rebuild the official plugin and to get it to be available on wordpress.com (http://wordpress.com) blogs. This will not happen unless the CC as an organization is behind the plugin. But I guess technical work is a bit stalled right now due personnel changes.
--
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tarmo at iki.fi (mailto:tarmo at iki.fi)
http://tarmo.fi
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
How are you doing with you wp-cc-plugin? Happy to help when you have specific questions.
Cheers,
Maarten
--
Post by BjornW
Thanks, I've forked it to my repos & 'll have a look.
grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi Bjorn! I pushed my edits to a github repository
here: https://github.com/tarmot/wp-cc-plugin/tree/tarmo-mods
The plugin is still named according to the original License, so it
will conflict with it and cannot be published on WP codex as it is.
But you should be able to give it a go.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
tarmo at iki.fi (mailto:tarmo at iki.fi)
http://tarmo.fi
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
I'm a WordPress plugin developer myself and I'm willing to help out. For
instance with testing. Do you have your code somewhere online, like
Github or some other place where we can check it out and perhaps send
patches / pull requests?
grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
Hi all,
I'm new to the list, but did check the archives back at least 2 years
There's a Wordpress plugin that is listed in the CC
wiki: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/WpLicense
However, WpLicense hasn't been updated since 2007. It's well done,
since it still works. However, it is very limited in its
behavior. Does anyone know if there's already people looking at
resuming development of that plugin?
What I've needed is a plugin that works for a multi-author blog, where
each author may have a separate license in use, and where certainly
the attribution generated in the CC license should reflect each post's
real author.
The best plugin I've found is License, which also is outdated and a
bit buggy: http://wordpress.org/plugins/license/
I've updated it myself to work better in non-US contexts and fixing
bugs. It allows for a default CC license for the blog, a default
license for each author, and post-specific licenses that override
those defaults. The widgets and short codes display correct
post-specific author names in the RDF and HTML.
I'm planning on publishing my fixed version of "License" to the
Wordpress codex. But I'm wondering what the best approach would be in
terms of WpLicense and what others are planning or wanting to do.
--
Tarmo Toikkanen
Creative Commons Finland
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http://tarmo.fi
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BjornW
2013-07-31 21:07:31 UTC
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Hi Tarmo,
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
1. Apparently the WpLicense plugin needs to be considered abandonware,
as no-one seems to be able to find admin credentials for it. So we'll
need to create a new "official CC WP plugin". Name suggestions that
don't clash with existing ones in the WP Codex are welcome.
Have you contact the wp-hackers mailing list or a core developer about
this? My experience is that abandonware can be taken over by someone
else. I may be able to help you here if you need help with this.

grtz
BjornW
Dan Mills
2013-07-31 23:12:03 UTC
Permalink
In the meantime, I think your plan to create a new plugin and point the
wiki to it is OK.

Dan
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
1. Apparently the WpLicense plugin needs to be considered abandonware,
as no-one seems to be able to find admin credentials for it. So we'll
need to create a new "official CC WP plugin". Name suggestions that
don't clash with existing ones in the WP Codex are welcome.
Have you contact the wp-hackers mailing list or a core developer about
this? My experience is that abandonware can be taken over by someone
else. I may be able to help you here if you need help with this.
grtz
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Tarmo Toikkanen
2013-08-01 05:13:03 UTC
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OK, so we have a plan b as well.

Bj?rn, if you could contact the WP developers about this, and CC Dan Mills? You point out that the plugin was developed by a CC.org employee at the time, and CC.org would like to regain access to it, with Dan being the technical contact point regarding verifying this from CC.org's side.

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In the meantime, I think your plan to create a new plugin and point the wiki to it is OK.
Dan
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
1. Apparently the WpLicense plugin needs to be considered abandonware,
as no-one seems to be able to find admin credentials for it. So we'll
need to create a new "official CC WP plugin". Name suggestions that
don't clash with existing ones in the WP Codex are welcome.
Have you contact the wp-hackers mailing list or a core developer about
this? My experience is that abandonware can be taken over by someone
else. I may be able to help you here if you need help with this.
grtz
BjornW
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2013-08-01 14:57:41 UTC
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Sounds like a good plan - let me know how it goes.


Dan

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Tarmo Toikkanen <tarmo.toikkanen at iki.fi>
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
OK, so we have a plan b as well.
Bj?rn, if you could contact the WP developers about this, and CC Dan Mills? You point out that the plugin was developed by a CC.org employee at the time, and CC.org would like to regain access to it, with Dan being the technical contact point regarding verifying this from CC.org's side.
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In the meantime, I think your plan to create a new plugin and point the wiki to it is OK.
Dan
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
1. Apparently the WpLicense plugin needs to be considered abandonware,
as no-one seems to be able to find admin credentials for it. So we'll
need to create a new "official CC WP plugin". Name suggestions that
don't clash with existing ones in the WP Codex are welcome.
Have you contact the wp-hackers mailing list or a core developer about
this? My experience is that abandonware can be taken over by someone
else. I may be able to help you here if you need help with this.
grtz
BjornW
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BjornW
2013-08-01 17:37:22 UTC
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Will do. I'll contact WordPress plugin community and cc Dan and you.

grtz
BjornW
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
OK, so we have a plan b as well.
Bj?rn, if you could contact the WP developers about this, and CC Dan
Mills? You point out that the plugin was developed by a CC.org
employee at the time, and CC.org would like to regain access to it,
with Dan being the technical contact point regarding verifying this
from CC.org's side.
--
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tarmo at iki.fi
http://tarmo.fi
In the meantime, I think your plan to create a new plugin and point the wiki to it is OK.
Dan
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 2:07 PM, BjornW <burobjorn at gmail.com
Post by BjornW
Hi Tarmo,
Post by Tarmo Toikkanen
1. Apparently the WpLicense plugin needs to be considered abandonware,
as no-one seems to be able to find admin credentials for it. So we'll
need to create a new "official CC WP plugin". Name suggestions that
don't clash with existing ones in the WP Codex are welcome.
Have you contact the wp-hackers mailing list or a core developer about
this? My experience is that abandonware can be taken over by someone
else. I may be able to help you here if you need help with this.
grtz
BjornW
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